Should We Thank The Environmentalists?

As we go to $5 a gallon just note that it’s not the as much the lack of oil as much as it is our currency isn’t worth $#!+….. I do agree w/ you that environmentalists aren’t helping the situation. China and Russia are hell bent on surpassing us as world power and no environmentalists group is going to change their motives… The do-gooders we are in America trying to appease everyone all time will eventually come back to kick our ***!!!

Refineries are not part of the reason gas prices are high. If it were, then there would be shortages at gas stations.
Even if it were true, do you think gas companies are actually going to want to do something to lower the prices, as long as people keep paying?

THE ENVIROMENTASTISTS ARE DEFINITELY A PROBLEM. THEY ARE ANTI DRILLING, ANTI-NUCLEAR,
ANTI-COAL & ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD HELP THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. THEY ARE ALSO PHONIES LIKE AL GORE & HIS HUGE ELECTRIC CONSUMPTION OR GOING TO THAT BENEFIT FOR THE ENVIROMENT IN THEIR PRIVATE JETS.

Let’s drill the Grand Canyon and Yosemite….

Forget the environmentalists.http://www.americansolutions.comhttp://navlog.org/anwr_truth.pdf

I’ll bet most of the people opposed to it aren’t really environmentalists … just NIMBY’s. In that case, why seize on this as an excuse to beat up on environmentalists?

Watermelon should be their official logo! Green on the outside communist red when you bust it open…

Environmental lobbyists own the Democrats.

Yes. And thanks to Bubba Clinton for blocking ANWR drilling in the 90’s. We could have had our oil by now.

Yes we should.
Every restriction placed on energy production was done so in the name of the ‘environment’.
The dems are a wholly owned subsidiary of the environmental groups.
There approach is to do nothing until it is too late then tell us that anything done will take so long it will have no immediate impact. Well no $hit! What a surprise another self-fulfilling prophecy.
If they hadn’t been obstructing every effort for 30 years we would have more energy on line NOW.
Their answer yet again will be, to do nothing until the next great crisis.
Remember algore suggested that the government artificially raise the price of gas to $5, and we aren’t there yet. So, the government has not reached its goal yet.

Yes we should.
The other day ole plastic face polosi would not bring the energy bill to the floor for a vote, the reason, she did not want the drill here and now bill to be brought up to the floor for a vote. Now 70% of Americans want that. But ole plastic face does not.
So while she is flying around in her jet (that we pay for, fuel and all) we can thank her. (would not want ole plastic face sitting in traffic)
So here is are the democrats (that supposedly care for the people and feel our pain) saying SCREW YOU what are you going to do to us.
Amazing how they seem to have forgotten
“WE THE PEOPLE”
I say lets all ban together and start a drive to replace all the dead wood in both houses.

The Oil Companies didn’t want Refiners when it started rising in 2001.
Oil Companies Sought to Boost Prices by Cutting Refinery Output
Associated Press – June 14, 2001
While the Bush administration cites the lack of* refineries* for energy shortages, internal oil industry documents show that five years ago companies were looking for ways to cut refinery output to boost* profits*. It takes about four years to build a large refinery so any substantial additional new capacity from new plants would have had to begin by the mid-1990s, energy expert acknowledge.
But some internal industry documents obtained by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., suggest that in the mid-1990s oil companies had no interest in building new* refineries* because of low profit margins and, in fact, were discussing the need to curtail refinery output to boost* profits*. “If the U.S. petroleum industry doesn’t reduce its refining capacity, it will never see any substantial increase in refinery margins (*profits*),” said an internal Chevron document in November 1995.
The memo cited warnings given about refinery* profits* by a senior analyst from the American Petroleum Institute, the industry trade group, at an industry conference that year. API spokesman Jim Craig, reached Wednesday evening, said he knew nothing about the memo or its reference to an API conference.
A year later, an official at Texaco, in a memo marked “highly confidential,” called concerns about too much refinery capacity “the most critical factor” facing the refinery industry – resulting in “very poor refining financial results.”
The Texaco memo, written in March, 1996, concluded that “significant events” were required to deal with the excess refinery capacity problem and suggested one solution might be to get the government to lift clean air requirements for an oxygenate in gasoline. Removal of the additive would require more gasoline to be used in each gallon of fuel, tightening supplies.
While refinery capacity now has become tight, the oil industry is still pressing for an end to the federal requirement for an oxygenate in gasoline, arguing new blends of gasoline can meet the same clean air requirements. “The documents suggest that major oil companies pursued efforts to curtail refinery capacity as a strategy for improving profit margins,” said Wyden, who was releasing the papers at a news conference today… Wyden said the documents he obtained – including the internal Texaco and Chevron memos – suggest that oil companies in the ’90s “sought to eliminate excess capacity to improve* profits*.
He said some of the* refineries* that were closed may have been* shuttered* “specifically to tighten supply and* drive up* costs” to consumers, although he provided no specific documentation of this.
But Wyden obtained a confidential 1996 e-mail from Mobil Corp., which has since merged with Exxon, that suggests major oil companies were not reluctant during the 1990s to try to force smaller independents out of business.
A California refinery owned by Powerine Oil Co., had ceased operation in 1995, but was trying to start* up* again a year later hoping to compete in production of a special, cleaner gasoline required by the state.
This gas was selling at a premium and Powerine’s reentry into the market could cause the price to drop as much as 3 cents a gallon, a Mobil executive warned in the internal e-mail. “Needless to say, we would all like to see Powerine stay down,” the memo continued. “Full court press is warranted in this case.” The refinery remained closed.

Oilmen have absolutely no interest in lowering the price of oil, why would they sell their product for less, that’s capitalism !

You’re absolutely right. We should turn this planet into a big, shriveled-up ball of oil rigs and smog, just so your life is a little bit easier. Why work on a long-term solution when there are all these half-proven GUESSES about short-term solutions available to us, right? Why think of the future when we’re far more important than anyone else ever will be? No one but you is entitled to their own opinion.
I am much amused that the same people who, just a few months ago, were defending Bush by denying that the oil issue was about anything other than supply and demand, are now blaming Nancy Pelosi, like she’s God or something.